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Who still gets to play with a big amp live these days?
I mean, the sound levels have gone down seriously on stages big and small (I'd even argue more so on big stages).
I went from a Deluxe Reverb I wasn't able to push beyond 5 for fear of being sacked from the band to a Blues Junior which I can't push much above 4 for the same reasons. It's very much possible I suck in general.
We play with good PA's and monitors. It's PLENTY loud on stage. I'm just wondering how others manage with those bigger amps - especially if they're not tucked safely in an ISO booth below the stage. I use a clean sound which I distort with pedals or (gasp/shudder) a Line6 Helix. If I needed a big Marshall sound, I'm not sure it would be feasible using the real thing in today's live configurations.
How are you 6-string people doing it?
"Sure, let's go on tour — I've still got some hearing left I'd like to obliterate"
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Amp? What is this "amp" you speak of?
In my quest for ever smaller and simpler rigs I've finally arrived at the point where I don't use an amp at all for most club gigs. My pedals feed into a Quilter Phantom Block, which goes directly into the PA.
The gigs where I do use an amp are all have ginormous stages, and are either outside or very large halls. Then my preferred weapon is a Tone Master Deluxe Reverb.
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Backline is still king down here, but it is getting smaller.
Gone are the days of 100 watt Marshalls.
The Fender Hotrod Deluxe is pretty ubiquitous these days.
Whenever I play out, if it's not supplied backline, I'll use my Matchless DC30...but it's not running that loud. I aim to balance my sound with the drums. I'm certainly not trying to overpower everything else.
I think the concept of a "quiet stage" is fine, but it relies heavily on having a monitor engineer who has a clue about mixing for IEMs, and at pub-level where I live that is not a given. I can't think of any local venue that even has an IEM rig as part of its kit.
I think the whole "turn down, but if you need more I'll put it in your wedge" does nothing to keep the stage quiet, and is a pointless exercise. That just seems like a FOH/Monitor person being a dick...er, control freak, and shifting the direction of the noise.
Just let me run my amp at a reasonable level, and mix person can distribute it on stage as needed.
Cheers,
Tim
oh crunch, you enormous dillhole.
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I'm not playing in a band right now. But I went the Helix road some moons ago and decided that whenever I'm gonna be playing live again, I will most probably not be carrying an amp with me but an FRFR box or some amp satellite thing (like a Boogie Satellite 60).
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Stages are becoming more and more silent over here.
Not uncommon to see in-hear monitors with an helix on the floor. I havent played live since the pandemic, but my current set up is a Helix, with a pedalboard and an actual amp for stage monitoring. Pedalboard runs in the effect loop of the helix, signal get split. The post amp simulation goes to FOH the signal after the pedals goes to the real amp for stage level. Both Helix amp sim and my real amp are of course fairly close sonically wise
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